Comments on: The non-atrocity of Getafe http://airminded.org/2009/10/11/the-non-atrocity-of-getafe/ Airpower and British society, 1908-1941 Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:05:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Ross Mahoney http://airminded.org/2009/10/11/the-non-atrocity-of-getafe/comment-page-1/#comment-116230 Ross Mahoney Sat, 17 Oct 2009 22:28:42 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=2586#comment-116230 Breet as an interesting aside Getafe maintains a link to air power to this day. It houses the Airbus factory that completes the construction of the new A400M, which is die to replace the various aircraft in the inventories of European air forces. Ross Breet as an interesting aside Getafe maintains a link to air power to this day. It houses the Airbus factory that completes the construction of the new A400M, which is die to replace the various aircraft in the inventories of European air forces.

Ross

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2009/10/11/the-non-atrocity-of-getafe/comment-page-1/#comment-116175 Brett Holman Sat, 17 Oct 2009 04:44:41 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=2586#comment-116175 Jane (and Mike): Thanks, but I don't think the rest of the world quite sees it that way :) Nemo: Thanks for that. (Down at the moment.) You've reminded me that I came across -- then lost -- an online translation of a German underground (presumably Communist) pamphlet which used the "Getafe" photos. The bombing-of-civilians theme was certainly picked up far and wide, not just in Britain and the US. Ians: Stradling does explore those sorts of links (also the Basque refugee children and so on). In fact he begins with the Manic Street Preachers because it was their song (and his students' curiosity about it) which led him to start researching the topic. No, I haven't read the Watkins book, thanks for that. How does it measure against Tom Buchanan's work? Jane (and Mike):

Thanks, but I don’t think the rest of the world quite sees it that way :)

Nemo:

Thanks for that. (Down at the moment.) You’ve reminded me that I came across — then lost — an online translation of a German underground (presumably Communist) pamphlet which used the “Getafe” photos. The bombing-of-civilians theme was certainly picked up far and wide, not just in Britain and the US.

Ians:

Stradling does explore those sorts of links (also the Basque refugee children and so on). In fact he begins with the Manic Street Preachers because it was their song (and his students’ curiosity about it) which led him to start researching the topic.

No, I haven’t read the Watkins book, thanks for that. How does it measure against Tom Buchanan’s work?

]]> By: Ian Brown http://airminded.org/2009/10/11/the-non-atrocity-of-getafe/comment-page-1/#comment-116055 Ian Brown Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:42:06 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=2586#comment-116055 The Spanish Civil war was a big issue in Scotland,London and South Wales,areas where the CPGB was strongest. There was a campaign to collect food and money for the Republic. It is still a cult subject among many people on the left in Britain. There are many books available about it. Have you read "BRITAIN DIVIDED"by Watkins? it is about the fight for British public opinion on the civil war. Left leaning history graduates (Swansea Uni) like the members of the Manic Street Preachers would know about the war from their studies but would also know about local heroes who had actually "fought in Spain" I think the link with and interest in the war was/is almost as strong in Scotland as in Wales but Wales has the additional factors of being home to people whose grandparents were refugees from the war and the historic influence of support for striking miners in Asturias. The Spanish Civil war was a big issue in Scotland,London and South Wales,areas where the CPGB was strongest.
There was a campaign to collect food and money for the Republic.

It is still a cult subject among many people on the left in Britain.
There are many books available about it.

Have you read “BRITAIN DIVIDED”by Watkins? it is about the fight for British public opinion on the civil war.

Left leaning history graduates (Swansea Uni) like the members of the Manic Street Preachers would know about the war from their studies but would also know about local heroes who had actually “fought in Spain”

I think the link with and interest in the war was/is almost as strong in Scotland as in Wales but Wales has the additional factors of being home to people whose grandparents were refugees from the war and the historic influence of support for striking miners in Asturias.

]]> By: Ian Evans http://airminded.org/2009/10/11/the-non-atrocity-of-getafe/comment-page-1/#comment-115974 Ian Evans Thu, 15 Oct 2009 11:38:29 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=2586#comment-115974 There were direct links between Wales and Spain (at least the Basque regions) in that Welsh tramp ships ran the blockade to take food in and bring refugees out. Whatever the crews saw on shore was, I'm sure, much improved upon in the pubs of Cardiff and Swansea. Ian There were direct links between Wales and Spain (at least the Basque regions) in that Welsh tramp ships ran the blockade to take food in and bring refugees out. Whatever the crews saw on shore was, I’m sure, much improved upon in the pubs of Cardiff and Swansea.
Ian

]]> By: Mike Cosgrave http://airminded.org/2009/10/11/the-non-atrocity-of-getafe/comment-page-1/#comment-115804 Mike Cosgrave Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:04:40 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=2586#comment-115804 Well, I used Airminded as an example of good history blogging for my Digital history class last week, and used this image twice in different lectures in the past 24 hours - once in the League of Nations and once in my WWII class for Strategic Bombing. I'm quite happy to admit that the history blogosphere makes my teaching better! Mike Well, I used Airminded as an example of good history blogging for my Digital history class last week, and used this image twice in different lectures in the past 24 hours – once in the League of Nations and once in my WWII class for Strategic Bombing. I’m quite happy to admit that the history blogosphere makes my teaching better!

Mike

]]> By: Nemo http://airminded.org/2009/10/11/the-non-atrocity-of-getafe/comment-page-1/#comment-115467 Nemo Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:26:20 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=2586#comment-115467 This post reminded me of this piece of invective from the pen of Italian anarchist Camillo Berneri (1897 - 1937) who went to Spain in 1936 to fight fascism and wound up being murdered by Stalinists in 1937: http://struggle.ws/berneri/madrid.html This post reminded me of this piece of invective from the pen of Italian anarchist Camillo Berneri (1897 – 1937) who went to Spain in 1936 to fight fascism and wound up being murdered by Stalinists in 1937:

http://struggle.ws/berneri/madrid.html

]]> By: jane fleming http://airminded.org/2009/10/11/the-non-atrocity-of-getafe/comment-page-1/#comment-115410 jane fleming Sat, 10 Oct 2009 17:29:42 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=2586#comment-115410 This research blog will no doubt appear in some book published format, I speculate a post-doc scholarship in the offing. This exemplary e-history blog needs a wider audience, beyond twitter. University of Cambridge [aka Duxford]? This research blog will no doubt appear in some book published format, I speculate a post-doc scholarship in the offing. This exemplary e-history blog needs a wider audience, beyond twitter. University of Cambridge [aka Duxford]?

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