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		<title>By: Brett Holman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m impressed that anyone even had the nerve to publish anything about the atom bomb project during the war!</description>
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		<title>By: Erik Lund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Lund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The McGraw-Hill press ran two editorials at the head of their technical magazine stable, one specific to the magazine, one that appeared in all of them. The latter editorial for October, 1944 (or possibly November?) is a complaint against the secrecy of the atomic bomb programme. No technical details. Those only appeared in the number after the August bombings, although logistically the article must have been distributed to the press well in advance. 
The RDF leak, if I&#039;m recalling it correctly, was an explicit and detailed description of the actual Chain Home system that appeared in a New York paper. The thing is, the details of the Chain Home system could hardly be kept secret. The cover story was that a new air traffic control system was going in.
Then along came the war, throwing the soft, obscuring blanket of the ages over the whole prewar era, and every detail that did not go to the new master narrative was flushed from the memory like it never happened.
As someone I just read (I can&#039;t quite recall just who, now), has said about the &quot;knockout blow.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The McGraw-Hill press ran two editorials at the head of their technical magazine stable, one specific to the magazine, one that appeared in all of them. The latter editorial for October, 1944 (or possibly November?) is a complaint against the secrecy of the atomic bomb programme. No technical details. Those only appeared in the number after the August bombings, although logistically the article must have been distributed to the press well in advance.<br />
The RDF leak, if I&#8217;m recalling it correctly, was an explicit and detailed description of the actual Chain Home system that appeared in a New York paper. The thing is, the details of the Chain Home system could hardly be kept secret. The cover story was that a new air traffic control system was going in.<br />
Then along came the war, throwing the soft, obscuring blanket of the ages over the whole prewar era, and every detail that did not go to the new master narrative was flushed from the memory like it never happened.<br />
As someone I just read (I can&#8217;t quite recall just who, now), has said about the &#8220;knockout blow.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Holman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan:

That&#039;s a very interesting question! One of the purposes of the fu-go balloons was to start forest fires, or as they would be called in Australia, bushfires. As it happens, Wells was in Australia at the time of the disastrous 1939 bushfires, and actually witnessed some of the firefighting near Canberra. He wrote about this in an article which was reprinted in &lt;em&gt;Travels&lt;/em&gt;, some of which is quoted in this &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travels_of_a_Republican_Radical_in_Search_of_Hot_Water&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia article&lt;/a&gt;. And later in that article, Wells speculates about the possibility of bushfires being started deliberately by an enemy from the air. Though he doesn&#039;t mention balloons in this context, it&#039;s tempting to think his own mind floated (as it were) from one idea to the other.

But -- his own language suggests that the air-mine idea was officially suggested (he says it was &#039;leaking out&#039;). It&#039;s not clear that he had any such ideas in Australia. And balloon-bombs had been used in war already -- by the Austrians against Venice in 1849. So there was precedent for the Japanese balloon bombs already.

Erik:

Yes, I&#039;ve come across similar things regarding RDF -- either descriptions of a new detection system which (with some generosity) sounds like radar, or something which actually isn&#039;t plausible but is asserted as being factual as though it was on good authority. It could be psychological, I agree, but I think Chamberlain et al were sneaky enough to put about rumours like this. It could just as well be to reassure the British public as worry the Germans, though.

What was the atomic bomb reference? The concept was already public, of course, but if there were any accurate numbers or technical details attached that would be interesting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a very interesting question! One of the purposes of the fu-go balloons was to start forest fires, or as they would be called in Australia, bushfires. As it happens, Wells was in Australia at the time of the disastrous 1939 bushfires, and actually witnessed some of the firefighting near Canberra. He wrote about this in an article which was reprinted in <em>Travels</em>, some of which is quoted in this <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travels_of_a_Republican_Radical_in_Search_of_Hot_Water" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia article</a>. And later in that article, Wells speculates about the possibility of bushfires being started deliberately by an enemy from the air. Though he doesn&#8217;t mention balloons in this context, it&#8217;s tempting to think his own mind floated (as it were) from one idea to the other.</p>
<p>But &#8212; his own language suggests that the air-mine idea was officially suggested (he says it was &#8216;leaking out&#8217;). It&#8217;s not clear that he had any such ideas in Australia. And balloon-bombs had been used in war already &#8212; by the Austrians against Venice in 1849. So there was precedent for the Japanese balloon bombs already.</p>
<p>Erik:</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;ve come across similar things regarding RDF &#8212; either descriptions of a new detection system which (with some generosity) sounds like radar, or something which actually isn&#8217;t plausible but is asserted as being factual as though it was on good authority. It could be psychological, I agree, but I think Chamberlain et al were sneaky enough to put about rumours like this. It could just as well be to reassure the British public as worry the Germans, though.</p>
<p>What was the atomic bomb reference? The concept was already public, of course, but if there were any accurate numbers or technical details attached that would be interesting!</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Lund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik Lund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the course of my reading, I&#039;ve encountered advanced leaks of Chain Home (described in full in a 1938  number of _Aero-Digest_, IIRC, although I haven&#039;t got the cite in my notes, it seems), the Napier Sabre (in a 1938/9 _Flight_), the nuclear bomb (_Aviation_, 1944), and British efforts to produce turbojet and turboprop engines (a cartoon in an August number of _The Aeroplane_ from just before C. G. Grey was retired). 
I&#039;m led to wonder about what seem to be pretty clearly signposted &quot;secret weapons&quot; of World War II that weren&#039;t leaked, such as carbonitriding, VHF aircraft radios, RDX. It&#039;s hard to see official censorship being effective enough to nip a suggestion that, say, the _King George V_&#039;s belt armour was carbonitrided instead of carburised (something that I still don&#039;t know for sure). Is it informal censorship? Is there something telling about people who _do_ talk about secret weapons in the press?
In the first instance, I&#039;d go with a psychological explanation. These guys want to look like they&#039;re in the know. But I can&#039;t shake the suspicion that the Chamberlain government is leaking some things deliberately to scare the Germans. You can see the overt side of the campaign in the June &quot;Parliamentary Air Soiree,&quot; when the PM arranged a mass overflight of &quot;mystery ships&quot; for the edification of a select group of MPs. Maybe there&#039;s something covert going on as well, and that&#039;s why Wells is so desperate to appear relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the course of my reading, I&#8217;ve encountered advanced leaks of Chain Home (described in full in a 1938  number of _Aero-Digest_, IIRC, although I haven&#8217;t got the cite in my notes, it seems), the Napier Sabre (in a 1938/9 _Flight_), the nuclear bomb (_Aviation_, 1944), and British efforts to produce turbojet and turboprop engines (a cartoon in an August number of _The Aeroplane_ from just before C. G. Grey was retired).<br />
I&#8217;m led to wonder about what seem to be pretty clearly signposted &#8220;secret weapons&#8221; of World War II that weren&#8217;t leaked, such as carbonitriding, VHF aircraft radios, RDX. It&#8217;s hard to see official censorship being effective enough to nip a suggestion that, say, the _King George V_&#8217;s belt armour was carbonitrided instead of carburised (something that I still don&#8217;t know for sure). Is it informal censorship? Is there something telling about people who _do_ talk about secret weapons in the press?<br />
In the first instance, I&#8217;d go with a psychological explanation. These guys want to look like they&#8217;re in the know. But I can&#8217;t shake the suspicion that the Chamberlain government is leaking some things deliberately to scare the Germans. You can see the overt side of the campaign in the June &#8220;Parliamentary Air Soiree,&#8221; when the PM arranged a mass overflight of &#8220;mystery ships&#8221; for the edification of a select group of MPs. Maybe there&#8217;s something covert going on as well, and that&#8217;s why Wells is so desperate to appear relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Dresner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dresner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that Wells came up with the air-mine in Australia. During WWII the Japanese used balloon-bombs quite extensively (and almost entirely in vain) against the US. I wonder what the geneaology of that idea was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that Wells came up with the air-mine in Australia. During WWII the Japanese used balloon-bombs quite extensively (and almost entirely in vain) against the US. I wonder what the geneaology of that idea was.</p>
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