Comments on: PB and C3I http://airminded.org/2009/05/05/pb-and-c3i/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=pb-and-c3i Airpower and British society, 1908-1941 Fri, 25 May 2012 12:47:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Airminded · Planes, trains and police control rooms http://airminded.org/2009/05/05/pb-and-c3i/comment-page-1/#comment-107635 Airminded · Planes, trains and police control rooms Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:40:43 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=1604#comment-107635 [...] about the evolution of the police C3I system, by way of train control and air defence. (See also here.) More like this, [...] [...] about the evolution of the police C3I system, by way of train control and air defence. (See also here.) More like this, [...]

]]> By: Chris Williams http://airminded.org/2009/05/05/pb-and-c3i/comment-page-1/#comment-105478 Chris Williams Fri, 15 May 2009 07:53:32 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=1604#comment-105478 No - also, though I don't want to overly depress you, there's very little chance of you finding your Chris this way. There are 400,000 people called Williams in the UK. No - also, though I don't want to overly depress you, there's very little chance of you finding your Chris this way. There are 400,000 people called Williams in the UK.

]]> By: Beatrice Arthur http://airminded.org/2009/05/05/pb-and-c3i/comment-page-1/#comment-105456 Beatrice Arthur Thu, 14 May 2009 19:17:54 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=1604#comment-105456 chris williams. i am looking for an old and very dear/missed friend Chris Williams who (although orig from U.K.) lived in San Diego, California for a short spell in the 1980's. Might you be him? thanks heaps, Beatrice wheresmejumpa at gmail.com chris williams. i am looking for an old and very dear/missed friend Chris Williams who (although orig from U.K.) lived in San Diego, California for a short spell in the 1980's. Might you be him?

thanks heaps, Beatrice wheresmejumpa at gmail.com

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2009/05/05/pb-and-c3i/comment-page-1/#comment-105443 Brett Holman Thu, 14 May 2009 14:02:19 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=1604#comment-105443 Sure, it wasn't a perfect scheme. If it had ever been tried it would have needed modification in the light of experience. Local commanders would have wanted as much independence as they could get, too. Sure, it wasn't a perfect scheme. If it had ever been tried it would have needed modification in the light of experience. Local commanders would have wanted as much independence as they could get, too.

]]> By: Alex http://airminded.org/2009/05/05/pb-and-c3i/comment-page-1/#comment-105255 Alex Sun, 10 May 2009 16:43:38 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=1604#comment-105255 Note that the intermediate layers - the groups and sectors - whose autonomy gave the Dowding system much of its strength are missing. It's the Man in Whitehall par excellence. Interestingly, one hundred districts reporting directly to central government is basically the structure of the French government since the revolution. He's also cutting out any kind of locally based <em>auftragstaktik</em>; perhaps he should be considered a weird version of a French technocrat? Note that the intermediate layers - the groups and sectors - whose autonomy gave the Dowding system much of its strength are missing. It's the Man in Whitehall par excellence. Interestingly, one hundred districts reporting directly to central government is basically the structure of the French government since the revolution. He's also cutting out any kind of locally based auftragstaktik; perhaps he should be considered a weird version of a French technocrat?

]]> By: Ian Evans http://airminded.org/2009/05/05/pb-and-c3i/comment-page-1/#comment-105125 Ian Evans Thu, 07 May 2009 07:48:15 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=1604#comment-105125 And while we're at it, Cuffley is where the first Zeppelin (actually a Schutte-Lanz) was shot down. There is (or was in the '60s) a memorial tablet in the church. And while we're at it, Cuffley is where the first Zeppelin (actually a Schutte-Lanz) was shot down. There is (or was in the '60s) a memorial tablet in the church.

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2009/05/05/pb-and-c3i/comment-page-1/#comment-105053 Brett Holman Wed, 06 May 2009 07:42:00 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=1604#comment-105053 And guess who picked up Hertford when PB resigned? Murray Sueter! Obviously a bit of a nexus in the aerospace-time continuum. And guess who picked up Hertford when PB resigned? Murray Sueter! Obviously a bit of a nexus in the aerospace-time continuum.

]]> By: Chris Williams http://airminded.org/2009/05/05/pb-and-c3i/comment-page-1/#comment-105028 Chris Williams Tue, 05 May 2009 19:22:22 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=1604#comment-105028 Kindasorta - it's at Hatfield, 10 miles away to the west along the A414. Kindasorta - it's at Hatfield, 10 miles away to the west along the A414.

]]> By: Erik Lund http://airminded.org/2009/05/05/pb-and-c3i/comment-page-1/#comment-105027 Erik Lund Tue, 05 May 2009 19:09:24 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=1604#comment-105027 And the old de Havilland industrial park is the next stop Londonwards. I think. And the old de Havilland industrial park is the next stop Londonwards.
I think.

]]> By: Chris Williams http://airminded.org/2009/05/05/pb-and-c3i/comment-page-1/#comment-105005 Chris Williams Tue, 05 May 2009 09:19:05 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=1604#comment-105005 Hertford may not be a suburb, but it is a commuter town as well as the county town. I know this because I spent the years 1972-c.1987 there. It's always (well, since 1843) had a train link to London, but until the 1920s this was via the Eastern Railway along the Lea Valley to Liverpool Street, so perhaps a bit too lower class for yr PBs of this world. The Northern Railway link - into Kings Cross via upmarket Cuffley and Enfield Chase - didn't arrive until 1924. ObKOB - Hertford's been attacked by zeppelin and by cruise (I think - some sources say ballistic) missile. Both before my time. It's also famous for WE 'Biggles' Johns. Hertford may not be a suburb, but it is a commuter town as well as the county town. I know this because I spent the years 1972-c.1987 there. It's always (well, since 1843) had a train link to London, but until the 1920s this was via the Eastern Railway along the Lea Valley to Liverpool Street, so perhaps a bit too lower class for yr PBs of this world. The Northern Railway link - into Kings Cross via upmarket Cuffley and Enfield Chase - didn't arrive until 1924.

ObKOB - Hertford's been attacked by zeppelin and by cruise (I think - some sources say ballistic) missile. Both before my time. It's also famous for WE 'Biggles' Johns.

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