http://airminded.org/2008/07/19/some-tante-jus-and-a-conference-report/ Airpower and British society, 1908-1941 Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:02:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 http://airminded.org/2008/07/19/some-tante-jus-and-a-conference-report/#comment-79348 Brett Holman Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:11:27 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=529#comment-79348 Well, better that that surfeit is expended here in a safe environment, I suppose, rather than in the real world where it could harm innocent passers-by! Well, better that that surfeit is expended here in a safe environment, I suppose, rather than in the real world where it could harm innocent passers-by!

]]> http://airminded.org/2008/07/19/some-tante-jus-and-a-conference-report/#comment-79216 Jakob Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:59:27 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=529#comment-79216 I prefer to think of it as a surfeit of erudition... I prefer to think of it as a surfeit of erudition…

]]> http://airminded.org/2008/07/19/some-tante-jus-and-a-conference-report/#comment-79192 Brett Holman Tue, 29 Jul 2008 11:50:21 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=529#comment-79192 You lot do go on. You lot do go on.

]]> http://airminded.org/2008/07/19/some-tante-jus-and-a-conference-report/#comment-79031 Chris Williams Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:27:20 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=529#comment-79031 A B17 is _cooler_ than a York. Guns, etc. It speaks volumes, too, about your ability to tap into your allies' logistical flow. Monty may have been no better than the class of 1918 tactically (itself a pretty high bar to clear) but he was streets ahead at showmanship and morale, and for the British Army in 1941 and after morale was very important if they were to win. A B17 is _cooler_ than a York. Guns, etc. It speaks volumes, too, about your ability to tap into your allies’ logistical flow. Monty may have been no better than the class of 1918 tactically (itself a pretty high bar to clear) but he was streets ahead at showmanship and morale, and for the British Army in 1941 and after morale was very important if they were to win.

]]> http://airminded.org/2008/07/19/some-tante-jus-and-a-conference-report/#comment-79028 Ian Evans Mon, 28 Jul 2008 11:47:24 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=529#comment-79028 I don't think any sane person considered the Lancastrian to be an airliner, it filled a requirement for a stop-gap rapid aerial conveyance. I don’t think any sane person considered the Lancastrian to be an airliner, it filled a requirement for a stop-gap rapid aerial conveyance.

]]> http://airminded.org/2008/07/19/some-tante-jus-and-a-conference-report/#comment-79020 Jakob Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:59:40 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=529#comment-79020 Seems a bit daft - I can't see a B-17 being any more comfortable than a York. The problem with the Lancastrian was that it kept the Lanc fuselage, and as such was very cramped indeed, as well as having the wing box run through the middle. Seems a bit daft - I can’t see a B-17 being any more comfortable than a York. The problem with the Lancastrian was that it kept the Lanc fuselage, and as such was very cramped indeed, as well as having the wing box run through the middle.

]]> http://airminded.org/2008/07/19/some-tante-jus-and-a-conference-report/#comment-78934 Alex Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:16:24 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=529#comment-78934 Well, WSC had a lot of fun with his York. Note however that Monty started a nontrivial interallied row about his aerial transport - insisted he could trade in a York for a B17 with Eisenhower, and eventually got a C-47 with a radio jeep in the back. Result, I think. Well, WSC had a lot of fun with his York. Note however that Monty started a nontrivial interallied row about his aerial transport - insisted he could trade in a York for a B17 with Eisenhower, and eventually got a C-47 with a radio jeep in the back. Result, I think.

]]> http://airminded.org/2008/07/19/some-tante-jus-and-a-conference-report/#comment-78894 Jakob Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:02:53 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=529#comment-78894 But by all accounts rather uncomfortable, and not suited to economic airline service... But by all accounts rather uncomfortable, and not suited to economic airline service…

]]> http://airminded.org/2008/07/19/some-tante-jus-and-a-conference-report/#comment-78825 CK Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:42:55 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=529#comment-78825 Fair point, Ian. On reflection pretty graceful http://www.curbe.com/QVA/qva/images/avro_lancastrian_ii-2.jpg Fair point, Ian. On reflection pretty graceful http://www.curbe.com/QVA/qva/images/avro_lancastrian_ii-2.jpg

]]> http://airminded.org/2008/07/19/some-tante-jus-and-a-conference-report/#comment-78622 Ian Evans Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:51:42 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=529#comment-78622 There's an airworthy Sunderland in Florida, at the Fantasy of Flight museum, though it has been civilianised as a Sandringham, and doesn't fly very often. CK, what have you got against the Lancastrian? There’s an airworthy Sunderland in Florida, at the Fantasy of Flight museum, though it has been civilianised as a Sandringham, and doesn’t fly very often.
CK, what have you got against the Lancastrian?

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