Comments on: The great stoush http://airminded.org/2008/06/20/the-great-stoush/ Airpower and British society, 1908-1941 Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:14:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2008/06/20/the-great-stoush/#comment-77166 Brett Holman Fri, 04 Jul 2008 15:32:56 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=515#comment-77166 Well, that seems reasonable but Google has virtually no hits for the <a href="http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22big+hairy-assed+goal%22" rel="nofollow">anatomical</a> <a href="http://www.google.com.au/search?q=%22big+hairy-arsed+goal%22" rel="nofollow">alternatives</a>. Who knows what goes on in the minds of Stanford business professors. Well, that seems reasonable but Google has virtually no hits for the anatomical alternatives. Who knows what goes on in the minds of Stanford business professors.

]]> By: Dan http://airminded.org/2008/06/20/the-great-stoush/#comment-77127 Dan Wed, 02 Jul 2008 13:23:42 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=515#comment-77127 Oh come on - if the A in the original BHAG stands for 'audacious' then I can't tell my audacious from my elbow! That's surely the point of including the 'Hairy' there at all. Oh come on - if the A in the original BHAG stands for ‘audacious’ then I can’t tell my audacious from my elbow! That’s surely the point of including the ‘Hairy’ there at all.

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2008/06/20/the-great-stoush/#comment-77100 Brett Holman Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:30:18 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=515#comment-77100 Well, bizarrely enough, I had no idea what a BHAG was, and learned that it stands for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Hairy_Audacious_Goal" rel="nofollow">"big hairy audacious goal"</a>. Which was a phrase I'd come across just the evening before in the <a href="http://www.economist.com/displayStory.cfm?story_ID=11614315" rel="nofollow"><em>Economist</em></a>! I thought that was a strange thing to say, but it makes more sense now. How's that for meta. Well, bizarrely enough, I had no idea what a BHAG was, and learned that it stands for “big hairy audacious goal”. Which was a phrase I’d come across just the evening before in the Economist! I thought that was a strange thing to say, but it makes more sense now. How’s that for meta.

]]> By: Don Smith http://airminded.org/2008/06/20/the-great-stoush/#comment-77067 Don Smith Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:47:44 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=515#comment-77067 Ian ... that's probably not so much like waiting for a bus as the fact your awareness (of the term) has now been raised. Rather like the numerous whatever-car-it-is-you-drive you see all over the place. Some call this the reticular activating system. It's a useful trait for getting stuff done BTW; set your sights on something (a holiday in Tahiti) and wonder as over ensuing days/weeks you encounter lots and lots of options - that you never knew were there! Tom Peters and his BHAGs live in the same world view. Ian … that’s probably not so much like waiting for a bus as the fact your awareness (of the term) has now been raised. Rather like the numerous whatever-car-it-is-you-drive you see all over the place. Some call this the reticular activating system. It’s a useful trait for getting stuff done BTW; set your sights on something (a holiday in Tahiti) and wonder as over ensuing days/weeks you encounter lots and lots of options - that you never knew were there! Tom Peters and his BHAGs live in the same world view.

]]> By: Ian Evans http://airminded.org/2008/06/20/the-great-stoush/#comment-77016 Ian Evans Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:56:41 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=515#comment-77016 I'm not qualified to comment, but I think my enthusiasm might be easily contained if my home town placed high in a list in which Swiss cities took the top two places! I’m not qualified to comment, but I think my enthusiasm might be easily contained if my home town placed high in a list in which Swiss cities took the top two places!

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2008/06/20/the-great-stoush/#comment-77010 Brett Holman Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:37:24 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=515#comment-77010 Oh yes, I read <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/nickbryant/2008/06/decision_time.html" rel="nofollow">Nick Bryant</a> too! Obviously Melbourne > Sydney, I mean nobody in their right mind could question that, but I agree with him that it's surprising that Hobart isn't ranked very highly. I'd certainly rather live there than Brisbane ... Oh yes, I read Nick Bryant too! Obviously Melbourne > Sydney, I mean nobody in their right mind could question that, but I agree with him that it’s surprising that Hobart isn’t ranked very highly. I’d certainly rather live there than Brisbane …

]]> By: Ian Evans http://airminded.org/2008/06/20/the-great-stoush/#comment-76892 Ian Evans Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:35:05 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=515#comment-76892 Nearly like buses, you wait decades and two arrive in the same month. The BBC website's Australian blogger used "stoush" in a mode immediately recognisible in a Scots context. Apparently, in a list of the world's most liveable-in cities there are six Australian ones in the top 35 and the ranking order "could unleash the most uncivil of civil stouches". Nearly like buses, you wait decades and two arrive in the same month. The BBC website’s Australian blogger used “stoush” in a mode immediately recognisible in a Scots context. Apparently, in a list of the world’s most liveable-in cities there are six Australian ones in the top 35 and the ranking order “could unleash the most uncivil of civil stouches”.

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2008/06/20/the-great-stoush/#comment-76492 Brett Holman Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:49:36 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=515#comment-76492 Ian: Ok, stoush can mean either of those, then, depending on the context. Somewhere between a blue and a flogging. (I had another look and the name for the Great War was the 'big stoush', not great stoush ... so my post title is not as clever as I thought! Oh well.) Gavin: I don't think there's anything wrong in pushing back when you've been pushed! Many a fine stoush has started that way :) More seriously, a lot of the resistance comes from those who seem to think that only women have a gender, and/or that gender history equates to neglecting whatever interests them in favour of minor 19th century suffragists or something like that. It should be sufficient to point out that in military history, for example, men and women have had a vastly different experience of war, because it's men who've done the fighting; but that doesn't mean that war hasn't affected women or that women haven't affected war. Gender is needed in military history as much as anywhere else, if not more so ... no matter what some old fogeys on WWI-L think! Ian:

Ok, stoush can mean either of those, then, depending on the context. Somewhere between a blue and a flogging.

(I had another look and the name for the Great War was the ‘big stoush’, not great stoush … so my post title is not as clever as I thought! Oh well.)

Gavin:

I don’t think there’s anything wrong in pushing back when you’ve been pushed! Many a fine stoush has started that way :) More seriously, a lot of the resistance comes from those who seem to think that only women have a gender, and/or that gender history equates to neglecting whatever interests them in favour of minor 19th century suffragists or something like that. It should be sufficient to point out that in military history, for example, men and women have had a vastly different experience of war, because it’s men who’ve done the fighting; but that doesn’t mean that war hasn’t affected women or that women haven’t affected war. Gender is needed in military history as much as anywhere else, if not more so … no matter what some old fogeys on WWI-L think!

]]> By: Gavin http://airminded.org/2008/06/20/the-great-stoush/#comment-76414 Gavin Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:53:23 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=515#comment-76414 My default position tends to agree: no kind of history is more important than any other kind and we need as many different kinds as possible. If everyone accepted that there'd be no problem. When I start making big claims about how important gender is, it's usually in response to people who insist that gender is somehow less important than whatever they assume is "proper" history. My default position tends to agree: no kind of history is more important than any other kind and we need as many different kinds as possible. If everyone accepted that there’d be no problem. When I start making big claims about how important gender is, it’s usually in response to people who insist that gender is somehow less important than whatever they assume is “proper” history.

]]> By: Ian Evans http://airminded.org/2008/06/20/the-great-stoush/#comment-76409 Ian Evans Fri, 20 Jun 2008 15:39:54 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=515#comment-76409 Stushie is vigorous debate/argument/shouting match. Stramash goes a bit further and definitely implies a brawl. In fitba' if there are six or more players in the goal area contesting energetically for the ball, Scots commentators refer to a stramash. Stushie is vigorous debate/argument/shouting match. Stramash goes a bit further and definitely implies a brawl.
In fitba’ if there are six or more players in the goal area contesting energetically for the ball, Scots commentators refer to a stramash.

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