Comments on: MONIAC and the warfare state http://airminded.org/2008/06/04/moniac-and-the-warfare-state/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=moniac-and-the-warfare-state Airpower and British society, 1908-1941 Fri, 25 May 2012 12:47:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2008/06/04/moniac-and-the-warfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-128835 Brett Holman Sat, 30 Jan 2010 10:44:42 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=507#comment-128835 Thanks, Alan. It's always interesting to hear first-hand recollections. Thanks, Alan. It's always interesting to hear first-hand recollections.

]]> By: Alan Chambers http://airminded.org/2008/06/04/moniac-and-the-warfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-128485 Alan Chambers Tue, 26 Jan 2010 15:47:00 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=507#comment-128485 Interesting to read of the original 'roller towel' flight simulator. At that time I worked at Dexion Ltd, we were asked to design a framework to carry the roller assembly plus the camera carriage mounted on the front of the unit I was concerned with the development of the frame system, and later installed these frameworks Warton (English Electric) and several other airport sites for pilot training. I left this area of manufacture at about the tome that GPS was taken over. I seem to recall that manufacture of the later developments of the system were carried out elsewhere. One man was reponsible for the dreation of the practical aptical system used to gether with the actual design and laborious process of building the 3-D from detailed photographs of the airport locations involved. Wish I could remember more! Interesting to read of the original 'roller towel' flight simulator. At that time I worked at Dexion Ltd, we were asked to design a framework to carry the roller assembly plus the camera carriage mounted on the front of the unit I was concerned with the development of the frame system, and later installed these frameworks Warton (English Electric) and several other airport sites for pilot training. I left this area of manufacture at about the tome that GPS was taken over. I seem to recall that manufacture of the later developments of the system were carried out elsewhere. One man was reponsible for the dreation of the practical aptical system used to gether with the actual design and laborious process of building the 3-D
from detailed photographs of the airport locations involved. Wish I could remember more!

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2008/06/04/moniac-and-the-warfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-95884 Brett Holman Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:32:51 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=507#comment-95884 Thanks -- very interesting! Thanks -- very interesting!

]]> By: Michael Claridge http://airminded.org/2008/06/04/moniac-and-the-warfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-95849 Michael Claridge Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:58:05 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=507#comment-95849 Interesting to come across a reference to Air Trainers Link in Aylesbury. This was my first job at 18 (in 1958) and I worked in the drawing office department where I turned out complicated exploded drawings and electrical circuit diagrams. I also designed many of the technical proposal covers of simulators such as the Caravelle, Comet 4B, Lightening and many others. I also printed these covers by hand and still have a few tucked away in the attic somewhere. I also made models for a car simulator and an airfield scene which was painted on a huge canvas roll which rotated in front a TV camera which moved backwards and forwards on a bicycle chain system. They both operated a projected shadow scenes in black and white. It was all very primitive. I made dummy dials for cockpits and all manner of strange things which I didn't understand. The company was also involved in the first parking meters and I drew and printed the 'flags' for these. It was entertaining and interesting and I owe a huge debt of gratitude to a man called Mr Cullimore who employed me and all the other artists who gave me great encouragement. In later life I became a PPL. Oh happy days. Interesting to come across a reference to Air Trainers Link in Aylesbury. This was my first job at 18 (in 1958) and I worked in the drawing office department where I turned out complicated exploded drawings and electrical circuit diagrams. I also designed many of the technical proposal covers of simulators such as the Caravelle, Comet 4B, Lightening and many others. I also printed these covers by hand and still have a few tucked away in the attic somewhere. I also made models for a car simulator and an airfield scene which was painted on a huge canvas roll which rotated in front a TV camera which moved backwards and forwards on a bicycle chain system. They both operated a projected shadow scenes in black and white. It was all very primitive. I made dummy dials for cockpits and all manner of strange things which I didn't understand. The company was also involved in the first parking meters and I drew and printed the 'flags' for these. It was entertaining and interesting and I owe a huge debt of gratitude to a man called Mr Cullimore who employed me and all the other artists who gave me great encouragement. In later life I became a PPL. Oh happy days.

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2008/06/04/moniac-and-the-warfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-75415 Brett Holman Sat, 07 Jun 2008 04:22:02 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=507#comment-75415 I wondered about that -- I don't remember seeing it when I was there in July. Though that may have been because I was in a hurry to see the flight gallery that you mention! I wondered about that -- I don't remember seeing it when I was there in July. Though that may have been because I was in a hurry to see the flight gallery that you mention!

]]> By: Ian Evans http://airminded.org/2008/06/04/moniac-and-the-warfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-75380 Ian Evans Fri, 06 Jun 2008 13:20:49 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=507#comment-75380 Well, there's synchronicity for you! I had a spare afternoon in London on Wednesday and as I was heading for Heathrow via Paddington on the Circle line, stopped off for a visit to the Science Museum. On my way up to the flight gallery I diverted through the computing section to pay homage to the works of Babbage (lots of beautifully polished brass and a great big handle for motive power; some day all computers will be made this way), and just past that section, there was MONIAC. I think it must have gone on display fairly recently, there was an article on it in one of the Sunday heavies. It may well be in working order, but it's not working; a notice informs interested parties that all fluid has been removed to prevent corrosion. Well, there's synchronicity for you! I had a spare afternoon in London on Wednesday and as I was heading for Heathrow via Paddington on the Circle line, stopped off for a visit to the Science Museum. On my way up to the flight gallery I diverted through the computing section to pay homage to the works of Babbage (lots of beautifully polished brass and a great big handle for motive power; some day all computers will be made this way), and just past that section, there was MONIAC. I think it must have gone on display fairly recently, there was an article on it in one of the Sunday heavies. It may well be in working order, but it's not working; a notice informs interested parties that all fluid has been removed to prevent corrosion.

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2008/06/04/moniac-and-the-warfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-75301 Brett Holman Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:40:33 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=507#comment-75301 Stalking, or standing on the shoulders of giants ... take your pick! Stalking, or standing on the shoulders of giants ... take your pick!

]]> By: The Financephalograph http://airminded.org/2008/06/04/moniac-and-the-warfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-75277 The Financephalograph Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:43:33 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=507#comment-75277 [...] Your war bonds at work: Brett Holman at Airminded follows up my link to MONIAC with more history, smart analysis, and lots of pictures. [...] [...] Your war bonds at work: Brett Holman at Airminded follows up my link to MONIAC with more history, smart analysis, and lots of pictures. [...]

]]> By: Rob MacD http://airminded.org/2008/06/04/moniac-and-the-warfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-75275 Rob MacD Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:40:09 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=507#comment-75275 So cool! Thanks for this. And, @Chris Wms, I should have known this would connect up to Agar's Government Machine. So cool! Thanks for this. And, @Chris Wms, I should have known this would connect up to Agar's Government Machine.

]]> By: Chris Williams http://airminded.org/2008/06/04/moniac-and-the-warfare-state/comment-page-1/#comment-75259 Chris Williams Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:55:53 +0000 http://airminded.org/?p=507#comment-75259 You stalking my mates, Holman? I know Chris Bissell - he's also works at the OU. I'm sure that this work was picked up by the Treasury. I'd check Agar's _Government Machine_ for evidence of this, but my copy is AWOL. You stalking my mates, Holman? I know Chris Bissell - he's also works at the OU.

I'm sure that this work was picked up by the Treasury. I'd check Agar's _Government Machine_ for evidence of this, but my copy is AWOL.

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