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	<title>Comments on: The doom of the great city</title>
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	<description>Airpower and British society, 1908-1941</description>
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		<title>By: Brett Holman</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/07/22/the-doom-of-the-great-city/comment-page-1/#comment-80320</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t say for sure whether Griffiths &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; fall into neglect -- that implies that he was popular to begin with, which may or may not be true. Jess could certainly answer that better than I, if he&#039;s reading it. On the question of Verne&#039;s influence in Britain, as least as it relates to stories involving aviation, you might want to check out chapter 2 of Michael Paris, &lt;em&gt;Winged Warfare: The Literature and Theory of Aerial Warfare in Britain, 1859-1917&lt;/em&gt; (Manchester and New York: Manchester University Press, 1992).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t say for sure whether Griffiths <em>did</em> fall into neglect &#8212; that implies that he was popular to begin with, which may or may not be true. Jess could certainly answer that better than I, if he&#8217;s reading it. On the question of Verne&#8217;s influence in Britain, as least as it relates to stories involving aviation, you might want to check out chapter 2 of Michael Paris, <em>Winged Warfare: The Literature and Theory of Aerial Warfare in Britain, 1859-1917</em> (Manchester and New York: Manchester University Press, 1992).</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for a most enlightning article. not having read fawcett, i&#039;d like to comment on the link between jules verne and griffiths. in his &quot;angel of the revolution&quot; verne is specifically referred to more than once, and the reader is assumed to have some familiarity with the shape of the vhiecle from &quot;master of the world&quot;.

to me all this is significant because english translations of verne up to the last three decades or so have been awfull &quot;children&#039;s books&quot; affairs, mostly because of verne&#039;s anti-british sentiments.

thus, griffiths may be the first english author to have acknowledged verne&#039;s influence while verne was still alive. 

further, this may be a good place to ask, what caused griffith&#039;s lapse into neglect? what could be the possibility that h.g.wells was influenced by his work(and thus more influenced by verne than he was willing to admit!) or by fawcett&#039;s work such as &quot;secret of the desert?&quot;
anyone with any information please write to me at
medusa@inter.net.il</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for a most enlightning article. not having read fawcett, i&#8217;d like to comment on the link between jules verne and griffiths. in his &#8220;angel of the revolution&#8221; verne is specifically referred to more than once, and the reader is assumed to have some familiarity with the shape of the vhiecle from &#8220;master of the world&#8221;.</p>
<p>to me all this is significant because english translations of verne up to the last three decades or so have been awfull &#8220;children&#8217;s books&#8221; affairs, mostly because of verne&#8217;s anti-british sentiments.</p>
<p>thus, griffiths may be the first english author to have acknowledged verne&#8217;s influence while verne was still alive. </p>
<p>further, this may be a good place to ask, what caused griffith&#8217;s lapse into neglect? what could be the possibility that h.g.wells was influenced by his work(and thus more influenced by verne than he was willing to admit!) or by fawcett&#8217;s work such as &#8220;secret of the desert?&#8221;<br />
anyone with any information please write to me at<br />
<a href="mailto:medusa@inter.net.il">medusa@inter.net.il</a></p>
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		<title>By: Barista &#187; Blog Archive &#187; yesterday&#8217;s futurology</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/07/22/the-doom-of-the-great-city/comment-page-1/#comment-56693</link>
		<dc:creator>Barista &#187; Blog Archive &#187; yesterday&#8217;s futurology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I found it indirectly through an entry on Air Minded. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I found it indirectly through an entry on Air Minded. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Holman</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/07/22/the-doom-of-the-great-city/comment-page-1/#comment-56599</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 21:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No problem at all, I write mainly for myself but it&#039;s always great when somebody else finds it interesting too. And I think you should put &lt;em&gt;The Secret of the Desert&lt;/em&gt; online, it would complement Paul&#039;s efforts with &lt;em&gt;Hartmann the Anarchist&lt;/em&gt; nicely :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No problem at all, I write mainly for myself but it&#8217;s always great when somebody else finds it interesting too. And I think you should put <em>The Secret of the Desert</em> online, it would complement Paul&#8217;s efforts with <em>Hartmann the Anarchist</em> nicely :)</p>
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		<title>By: David Dellinger</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/07/22/the-doom-of-the-great-city/comment-page-1/#comment-56562</link>
		<dc:creator>David Dellinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 08:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This information is nothing short of astonishing. I came online tonight specifically seeking information on an interesting period fantasy novel of which I possess one heavily damaged (but complete) copy, The Secret of the Desert, by Fawcett. Were I to have conducted this search a fortnight ago, I would have found virtually nothing. Tonight, I find a capsule biography of the author with a discussion of his works! Truly, synchronicity is a mysterious and marvelous force!

I am now wondering if my one true purpose in life is to transcribe The Secret of the Desert and make this scarce volume, with its illustrations, available online. Not that I&#039;m particularly enthralled by the idea of that much typing....

Thank you, sincerely, for presenting this fascinating discussion of the works of E. D. Fawcett.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This information is nothing short of astonishing. I came online tonight specifically seeking information on an interesting period fantasy novel of which I possess one heavily damaged (but complete) copy, The Secret of the Desert, by Fawcett. Were I to have conducted this search a fortnight ago, I would have found virtually nothing. Tonight, I find a capsule biography of the author with a discussion of his works! Truly, synchronicity is a mysterious and marvelous force!</p>
<p>I am now wondering if my one true purpose in life is to transcribe The Secret of the Desert and make this scarce volume, with its illustrations, available online. Not that I&#8217;m particularly enthralled by the idea of that much typing&#8230;.</p>
<p>Thank you, sincerely, for presenting this fascinating discussion of the works of E. D. Fawcett.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Williams</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/07/22/the-doom-of-the-great-city/comment-page-1/#comment-55478</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marcus is also a member of the Secret s.h.w-i Cabal.

Michael Moorcock&#039;s take on Fawcett and Griffiths is interesting  - it can be found in _The Warlord of the Air_, and the introduction to the two volumes of his resea^h^h^h contemporary fiction he edited, _Before Armageddon_ and _England Invaded_.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcus is also a member of the Secret s.h.w-i Cabal.</p>
<p>Michael Moorcock&#8217;s take on Fawcett and Griffiths is interesting  &#8211; it can be found in _The Warlord of the Air_, and the introduction to the two volumes of his resea^h^h^h contemporary fiction he edited, _Before Armageddon_ and _England Invaded_.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Holman</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/07/22/the-doom-of-the-great-city/comment-page-1/#comment-55474</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, I&#039;ll have to see if there&#039;s any room in my busy social calendar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I&#8217;ll have to see if there&#8217;s any room in my busy social calendar!</p>
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		<title>By: Jess Nevins</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/07/22/the-doom-of-the-great-city/comment-page-1/#comment-55433</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess Nevins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure you&#039;d enjoy talking with Marcus--very interesting &amp; friendly chap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d enjoy talking with Marcus&#8211;very interesting &amp; friendly chap.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Todd</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/07/22/the-doom-of-the-great-city/comment-page-1/#comment-55382</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking of George Griffith, Marcus Rowland produces CD-roms with high quality scans taken directly (so I believe) from original editions of such Griffith works as &#039;Olga Romanoff&#039; and &#039;The Angel of the Revolution&#039;. For the full text and small scans of the original illustrations by Jane, follow the link:

http://www.forgottenfutures.com/game/ff7/

And he lives in west London, so as you&#039;re now here, Brett, you may want to contact him (details on the linked page).

Jane also did naval related illustrations for magazines such as Pearson&#039;s (I&#039;ve got a full set of Pearson&#039;s covering 1896 through 1899 inclusive, which contains some of his work).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking of George Griffith, Marcus Rowland produces CD-roms with high quality scans taken directly (so I believe) from original editions of such Griffith works as &#8216;Olga Romanoff&#8217; and &#8216;The Angel of the Revolution&#8217;. For the full text and small scans of the original illustrations by Jane, follow the link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forgottenfutures.com/game/ff7/" rel="nofollow">http://www.forgottenfutures.com/game/ff7/</a></p>
<p>And he lives in west London, so as you&#8217;re now here, Brett, you may want to contact him (details on the linked page).</p>
<p>Jane also did naval related illustrations for magazines such as Pearson&#8217;s (I&#8217;ve got a full set of Pearson&#8217;s covering 1896 through 1899 inclusive, which contains some of his work).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gilster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Gilster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprised that Fawcett hasn&#039;t made it onto Project Gutenberg by this point; I&#039;ll nudge an appropriate volunteer :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprised that Fawcett hasn&#8217;t made it onto Project Gutenberg by this point; I&#8217;ll nudge an appropriate volunteer :-)</p>
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