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	<title>Comments on: The Airship Destroyer</title>
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	<description>Airpower and British society, 1908-1941</description>
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		<title>By: Brett Holman</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/comment-page-1/#comment-157554</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 10:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bad thing about silent films are the modern soundtracks. The good thing about silent films is the volume control!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bad thing about silent films are the modern soundtracks. The good thing about silent films is the volume control!</p>
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		<title>By: John Shepherd</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/comment-page-1/#comment-157547</link>
		<dc:creator>John Shepherd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 01:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

Thanks for the cross-cite.  The music(?) is rather odd, but for those of us not living in Britain, it&#039;s a great opportunity to see the film.</description>
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<p>Thanks for the cross-cite.  The music(?) is rather odd, but for those of us not living in Britain, it's a great opportunity to see the film.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Langham</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/comment-page-1/#comment-157487</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Langham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 14:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s an old post so don&#039;t know if you&#039;ll see it, but aside from the varying quality copies on youtube, there&#039;s a fantastic copy (with a rather weird 2008 soundtrack) online here;

http://www.europafilmtreasures.eu/PY/278/see-the-film-the_airship_destroyer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it's an old post so don't know if you'll see it, but aside from the varying quality copies on youtube, there's a fantastic copy (with a rather weird 2008 soundtrack) online here;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.europafilmtreasures.eu/PY/278/see-the-film-the_airship_destroyer" rel="nofollow">http://www.europafilmtreasures.eu/PY/278/see-the-film-the_airship_destroyer</a></p>
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		<title>By: Airminded &#183; Screening the knock-out blow</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/comment-page-1/#comment-81823</link>
		<dc:creator>Airminded &#183; Screening the knock-out blow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of these I did know about, such as The Airship Destroyer (1909). It&#8217;s now available on YouTube, under an alternate title, Battle in the Clouds. In it, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of these I did know about, such as The Airship Destroyer (1909). It&#8217;s now available on YouTube, under an alternate title, Battle in the Clouds. In it, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Holman</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/comment-page-1/#comment-43525</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, that&#039;s a good point. Of course, by 2013, the copyright period will no doubt have been extended by another decade or two &#039;to protect the interests of the creator&#039;s estate&#039;. Won&#039;t somebody please think of the great-great-grandchildren!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, that's a good point. Of course, by 2013, the copyright period will no doubt have been extended by another decade or two 'to protect the interests of the creator's estate'. Won't somebody please think of the great-great-grandchildren!</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately I think it still is under copyright as Charles Urban didn&#039;t die until 1942. That means it won&#039;t be in the public domain in the UK until 1st January 2013. Let&#039;s hope that on that day someone posts it on YouTube.

I would now like to express regret and sadness at UK copyright law. No, actually I&#039;d like to express anger, defiance, and contempt...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately I think it still is under copyright as Charles Urban didn't die until 1942. That means it won't be in the public domain in the UK until 1st January 2013. Let's hope that on that day someone posts it on YouTube.</p>
<p>I would now like to express regret and sadness at UK copyright law. No, actually I'd like to express anger, defiance, and contempt...</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Holman</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/comment-page-1/#comment-43335</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not good enough, Chris. Breaker Morant, Gallipoli, Bodyline, Singapore, Maralinga ... and now this! It really is the last straw. I may not even offer the Queen cucumber sandwiches next time she visits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not good enough, Chris. Breaker Morant, Gallipoli, Bodyline, Singapore, Maralinga ... and now this! It really is the last straw. I may not even offer the Queen cucumber sandwiches next time she visits.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Williams</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/comment-page-1/#comment-43298</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right - it&#039;s not JISC, but the lottery that&#039;s funding it. Sorry everyone - I&#039;d like to apologise (or at least express regret - but not offer reparations) on behalf of the UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You're right - it's not JISC, but the lottery that's funding it. Sorry everyone - I'd like to apologise (or at least express regret - but not offer reparations) on behalf of the UK.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Holman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the issue perhaps less to do with copyright (which as David says, can hardly apply to a 1909 film made by companies and artists long since gone), and more to do with the attitude that as the rest of the world didn&#039;t pay for the website, digitisation, etc (and British taxpayers, or perhaps lottery players did), they shouldn&#039;t get to see it for free?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the issue perhaps less to do with copyright (which as David says, can hardly apply to a 1909 film made by companies and artists long since gone), and more to do with the attitude that as the rest of the world didn't pay for the website, digitisation, etc (and British taxpayers, or perhaps lottery players did), they shouldn't get to see it for free?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:01:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the restiction probably dervives from the fact that the copyright for the films was bought by JISC - the HE ICT body - for educational use only. JISC also give out .ac.uk domain names. 

I imagine that if the BFI were buying copyright for all these films on a free to air basis, it would cost a packet: commercial rates are about twenty times the basic cost of digitisation, which itself isn&#039;t cheap if you do it properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the restiction probably dervives from the fact that the copyright for the films was bought by JISC - the HE ICT body - for educational use only. JISC also give out .ac.uk domain names. </p>
<p>I imagine that if the BFI were buying copyright for all these films on a free to air basis, it would cost a packet: commercial rates are about twenty times the basic cost of digitisation, which itself isn't cheap if you do it properly.</p>
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