Comments on: The Airship Destroyer http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/ Airpower and British society, 1908-1941 Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:51:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Airminded · Screening the knock-out blow http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-81823 Airminded · Screening the knock-out blow Mon, 25 Aug 2008 17:23:10 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-81823 [...] of these I did know about, such as The Airship Destroyer (1909). It’s now available on YouTube, under an alternate title, Battle in the Clouds. In it, [...] [...] of these I did know about, such as The Airship Destroyer (1909). It’s now available on YouTube, under an alternate title, Battle in the Clouds. In it, [...]

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43525 Brett Holman Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:29:23 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43525 Ah, that's a good point. Of course, by 2013, the copyright period will no doubt have been extended by another decade or two 'to protect the interests of the creator's estate'. Won't somebody please think of the great-great-grandchildren! Ah, that’s a good point. Of course, by 2013, the copyright period will no doubt have been extended by another decade or two ‘to protect the interests of the creator’s estate’. Won’t somebody please think of the great-great-grandchildren!

]]> By: Gavin Robinson http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43524 Gavin Robinson Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:19:47 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43524 Unfortunately I think it still is under copyright as Charles Urban didn't die until 1942. That means it won't be in the public domain in the UK until 1st January 2013. Let's hope that on that day someone posts it on YouTube. I would now like to express regret and sadness at UK copyright law. No, actually I'd like to express anger, defiance, and contempt... Unfortunately I think it still is under copyright as Charles Urban didn’t die until 1942. That means it won’t be in the public domain in the UK until 1st January 2013. Let’s hope that on that day someone posts it on YouTube.

I would now like to express regret and sadness at UK copyright law. No, actually I’d like to express anger, defiance, and contempt…

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43335 Brett Holman Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:23:54 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43335 Not good enough, Chris. Breaker Morant, Gallipoli, Bodyline, Singapore, Maralinga ... and now this! It really is the last straw. I may not even offer the Queen cucumber sandwiches next time she visits. Not good enough, Chris. Breaker Morant, Gallipoli, Bodyline, Singapore, Maralinga … and now this! It really is the last straw. I may not even offer the Queen cucumber sandwiches next time she visits.

]]> By: Chris Williams http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43298 Chris Williams Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:31:12 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43298 You're right - it's not JISC, but the lottery that's funding it. Sorry everyone - I'd like to apologise (or at least express regret - but not offer reparations) on behalf of the UK. You’re right - it’s not JISC, but the lottery that’s funding it. Sorry everyone - I’d like to apologise (or at least express regret - but not offer reparations) on behalf of the UK.

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43272 Brett Holman Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:45:00 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43272 Is the issue perhaps less to do with copyright (which as David says, can hardly apply to a 1909 film made by companies and artists long since gone), and more to do with the attitude that as the rest of the world didn't pay for the website, digitisation, etc (and British taxpayers, or perhaps lottery players did), they shouldn't get to see it for free? Is the issue perhaps less to do with copyright (which as David says, can hardly apply to a 1909 film made by companies and artists long since gone), and more to do with the attitude that as the rest of the world didn’t pay for the website, digitisation, etc (and British taxpayers, or perhaps lottery players did), they shouldn’t get to see it for free?

]]> By: Chris Williams http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43137 Chris Williams Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:01:47 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43137 I think that the restiction probably dervives from the fact that the copyright for the films was bought by JISC - the HE ICT body - for educational use only. JISC also give out .ac.uk domain names. I imagine that if the BFI were buying copyright for all these films on a free to air basis, it would cost a packet: commercial rates are about twenty times the basic cost of digitisation, which itself isn't cheap if you do it properly. I think that the restiction probably dervives from the fact that the copyright for the films was bought by JISC - the HE ICT body - for educational use only. JISC also give out .ac.uk domain names.

I imagine that if the BFI were buying copyright for all these films on a free to air basis, it would cost a packet: commercial rates are about twenty times the basic cost of digitisation, which itself isn’t cheap if you do it properly.

]]> By: david tiley http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43132 david tiley Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:19:03 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/03/22/the-airship-destroyer/#comment-43132 That restriction by the Brits is tacky. I guess they would argue that it simplifies the IP issues, but they have hundreds rather than thousands of films up, and the older ones are surely not confined. Also it is an early indication of the way in which the internet will cease to be universal as territorial ideas of IP are reasserted to deal with local rights. That restriction by the Brits is tacky. I guess they would argue that it simplifies the IP issues, but they have hundreds rather than thousands of films up, and the older ones are surely not confined.

Also it is an early indication of the way in which the internet will cease to be universal as territorial ideas of IP are reasserted to deal with local rights.

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