Comments on: Concrete memory http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/ Airpower and British society, 1908-1941 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:59:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Don Smith http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-82164 Don Smith Thu, 28 Aug 2008 22:52:10 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-82164 Ditto - I lived for years in East Melbourne and walked through the Fitzroy gardens to and from work. Since then (now living in NZ) I take my children to visit the village (and the fairy tree, and Cook's cottage) when we're visiting Melbourne. What a wonderful "extra" piece of context. Ditto - I lived for years in East Melbourne and walked through the Fitzroy gardens to and from work. Since then (now living in NZ) I take my children to visit the village (and the fairy tree, and Cook’s cottage) when we’re visiting Melbourne. What a wonderful “extra” piece of context.

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-82129 Brett Holman Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:25:22 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-82129 I had no idea about the origins of the model village, JDK! An article in <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/it-takes-a-village/2008/05/20/1211182801556.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1" rel="nofollow"><em>The Age</em></a> suggests that the models are probably made from bits of material scavenged from London bombsites, so it's like a little bit of the Blitz here in Melbourne. (For non-Melburnians, there are some photos on <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/modeltudorvillage/" rel="nofollow">Flickr</a>.) I had no idea about the origins of the model village, JDK! An article in The Age suggests that the models are probably made from bits of material scavenged from London bombsites, so it’s like a little bit of the Blitz here in Melbourne. (For non-Melburnians, there are some photos on Flickr.)

]]> By: Jakob http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-82053 Jakob Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:27:44 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-82053 Although IIRC Loughborough has a good reputation for some of its engineering courses; quite what this says about engineer's I'm not sure... Although IIRC Loughborough has a good reputation for some of its engineering courses; quite what this says about engineer’s I’m not sure…

]]> By: JDK http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-82042 JDK Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:15:42 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-82042 BTW, Canberra has another Carillon, on Lake Burley Griffin, the bells coming from Logie Brogie. Hem, sorry, Loughborough. ;D http://www.nationalcapital.gov.au/visiting/attractions/national_carillon.asp Closer to the topic, Melbourne has a very unusual 'war memorial' in the Model Tudor Village (and it's concrete) in the Fitzroy Gardens: "Model Tudor Village - Tiny model buildings in cement and paint represent a typical Kentish village during the Tudor period in England. The village was opened by Lord Mayor Cr Raymond Connelly on 21 May 1948. The model maker was Edgar Wilson, a 77-year-old who built three such villages. The village was a gift to the people of Melbourne, sent in appreciation of the food parcels received by the people of Lambeth, London, during World War II." http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/info.cfm?top=25&pa=1273&pg=1284 BTW, Canberra has another Carillon, on Lake Burley Griffin, the bells coming from Logie Brogie. Hem, sorry, Loughborough. ;D

http://www.nationalcapital.gov.au/visiting/attractions/national_carillon.asp

Closer to the topic, Melbourne has a very unusual ‘war memorial’ in the Model Tudor Village (and it’s concrete) in the Fitzroy Gardens:

“Model Tudor Village - Tiny model buildings in cement and paint represent a typical Kentish village during the Tudor period in England. The village was opened by Lord Mayor Cr Raymond Connelly on 21 May 1948. The model maker was Edgar Wilson, a 77-year-old who built three such villages. The village was a gift to the people of Melbourne, sent in appreciation of the food parcels received by the people of Lambeth, London, during World War II.”
http://www.melbourne.vic.gov.au/info.cfm?top=25&pa=1273&pg=1284

]]> By: Chris Williams http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-82040 Chris Williams Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:06:17 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-82040 Jocks. Loughborough used to be the national Physical Training College, and they still have great facilities which means that a large proportion of the undergrads are there because they are into sport rather than curious about anything. ObHistory book that nobody's written: the massive social division in the UK undergraduate population of the 1950s between the 'hearties' and the 'intellectuals'. Jocks. Loughborough used to be the national Physical Training College, and they still have great facilities which means that a large proportion of the undergrads are there because they are into sport rather than curious about anything.

ObHistory book that nobody’s written: the massive social division in the UK undergraduate population of the 1950s between the ‘hearties’ and the ‘intellectuals’.

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-82032 Brett Holman Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:56:45 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-82032 Surely it can't be too different to that of any other undergraduate population! Surely it can’t be too different to that of any other undergraduate population!

]]> By: Chris Williams http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-81882 Chris Williams Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:52:16 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-81882 There's a memorial carillon up the road from me in Loughborough (pronounced 'Low-brow' owing to the intellectual focus of its university's undergrads). http://www.loughboroughcarillon.com/ There’s a memorial carillon up the road from me in Loughborough (pronounced ‘Low-brow’ owing to the intellectual focus of its university’s undergrads).
http://www.loughboroughcarillon.com/

]]> By: Gavin http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-81879 Gavin Tue, 26 Aug 2008 07:25:28 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-81879 Merere can mean "to deserve" on its own, but the phrase "bene merere de..." means "to serve well" or "to do service to". Merere can mean “to deserve” on its own, but the phrase “bene merere de…” means “to serve well” or “to do service to”.

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-81873 Brett Holman Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:33:15 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-81873 Gavin: Somebody's been improving himself! Thanks, that sounds more plausible than the translation I found (though maybe 'deserved' was a typo for 'served'). ErrolC: Fascinating. I don't think I've ever heard of (or heard, for that matter) a carillon before. There's another war memorial carillon at the <a href="http://www.carillon.org.au/usyd/intro.html" rel="nofollow">University of Sydney</a>. JDK: I was certainly struck by the apparent lack of a memorial aspect to the <a href="http://airminded.org/2007/08/14/imperial-war-museum-london/" rel="nofollow">Imperial War Museum</a> when I was there last year. I more or less was expecting it to be something like the AWM. But I had to <a href="http://airminded.org/2007/08/18/the-iwm-and-memory/" rel="nofollow">reconsider that</a> after reading a 1920s article arguing that the IWM was serving, or rather would serve, a memorial function by showing people who had a personal and often deeply sorrowful connection to the war just what it had been like. I suppose that idea is still there, though as time passes it has tended towards a more or less pure museum. Good points about the forgetting of the Russian intervention and the space required to chisel in the names of everybody who served ... Gavin:

Somebody’s been improving himself! Thanks, that sounds more plausible than the translation I found (though maybe ‘deserved’ was a typo for ’served’).

ErrolC:

Fascinating. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of (or heard, for that matter) a carillon before. There’s another war memorial carillon at the University of Sydney.

JDK:

I was certainly struck by the apparent lack of a memorial aspect to the Imperial War Museum when I was there last year. I more or less was expecting it to be something like the AWM. But I had to reconsider that after reading a 1920s article arguing that the IWM was serving, or rather would serve, a memorial function by showing people who had a personal and often deeply sorrowful connection to the war just what it had been like. I suppose that idea is still there, though as time passes it has tended towards a more or less pure museum.

Good points about the forgetting of the Russian intervention and the space required to chisel in the names of everybody who served …

]]> By: JDK http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-81753 JDK Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:08:43 +0000 http://airminded.org/2007/02/11/concrete-memory/#comment-81753 Thanks Errol. It's the danger of trying to be definitive! Clearly the Auckland War Memorial Museum is fulfilling a very similar niche to the Australian War Memorial. Thanks Errol. It’s the danger of trying to be definitive! Clearly the Auckland War Memorial Museum is fulfilling a very similar niche to the Australian War Memorial.

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