Comments on: Now pay attention http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=now-pay-attention Airpower and British society, 1908-1941 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:09:12 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-158770 Brett Holman Tue, 21 Jun 2011 12:27:03 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/#comment-158770 Thanks! So I guess that tells us the borrowing limit -- one book per ticket. If that was the same thing as a reader's ticket, I've only heard of that in the singular, so one book per borrower? Thanks! So I guess that tells us the borrowing limit -- one book per ticket. If that was the same thing as a reader's ticket, I've only heard of that in the singular, so one book per borrower?

]]> By: neonsignal http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-158761 neonsignal Tue, 21 Jun 2011 08:40:08 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/#comment-158761 I have an old 1928 A.A. Milne book from the Public Lending Library of Victoria with all 6 rules in the front. The first 4 rules are the same. Rule 6 became what is rule 5 in your image above (though it is all in capitals just to make sure!). The 5th rule was <blockquote> 5. When a book is returned a borrower receives his ticket as an acknowledgement of receipt. This ticket should be held by the borrower until another book is taken. </blockquote> I have an old 1928 A.A. Milne book from the Public Lending Library of Victoria with all 6 rules in the front. The first 4 rules are the same. Rule 6 became what is rule 5 in your image above (though it is all in capitals just to make sure!). The 5th rule was

5. When a book is returned a borrower receives his ticket as an acknowledgement of receipt. This ticket should be held by the borrower until another book is taken.

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-9707 Brett Holman Sat, 02 Dec 2006 03:46:09 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/#comment-9707 Oh yes, it was great for having a nap between, and sometimes through, lectures ... Their music collection was still mostly on vinyl when I first became acquainted with it. Good SF collection too. Oh yes, it was great for having a nap between, and sometimes through, lectures ... Their music collection was still mostly on vinyl when I first became acquainted with it. Good SF collection too.

]]> By: genevieve http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-9542 genevieve Fri, 01 Dec 2006 00:36:42 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/#comment-9542 Of course the Rowden White library is not for studying, Brett, it's for learning all about modern music, developing networks with borrowing staff and organising a listening post of your own with a stack of CDs waiting for you when you come in. As one of my neighbours, an old Engineering stude, told me about ten years after I graduated. No wonder all I ever did there was have a kip in a leather chair. Only library on campus with footstools in 1979. Of course the Rowden White library is not for studying, Brett, it's for learning all about modern music, developing networks with borrowing staff and organising a listening post of your own with a stack of CDs waiting for you when you come in. As one of my neighbours, an old Engineering stude, told me about ten years after I graduated. No wonder all I ever did there was have a kip in a leather chair. Only library on campus with footstools in 1979.

]]> By: Barista » Blog Archive » History Carnival XLIV http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-9518 Barista » Blog Archive » History Carnival XLIV Thu, 30 Nov 2006 13:57:16 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/#comment-9518 [...] Fortunately, Brett Holman, another blogger on matters military at Air Minded, rescues us from this grim fragment with a post about the mysterious and peremptory rules of Lending Libraries. It ends with a plea for further information, which I hope you can provide. [...] [...] Fortunately, Brett Holman, another blogger on matters military at Air Minded, rescues us from this grim fragment with a post about the mysterious and peremptory rules of Lending Libraries. It ends with a plea for further information, which I hope you can provide. [...]

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-9124 Brett Holman Sun, 26 Nov 2006 07:41:06 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/#comment-9124 Thanks, David. Yes, that's not implausible. One would assume that the library <em>didn't</em> just put the books back into circulation, that they treated them somehow, or quarantined them for some period. Maybe even just burned them. But as their otherwise stringent rules don't seem to require informing them that there was a disease outbreak in the house -- just to return the books -- who knows what they actually did? Would fumigation work against polio, anyway? A virus isn't alive and so couldn't be killed by gassing it, which (as I understand it) is what fumigation basically is. TB, I could see -- that's caused by bacteria which could in theory be gassed effectively. (I'm not a doctor or a biologist, so of course I could be wrong.) Of course, all this may not have been clear in the 1940s when the sticker was printed. Or maybe it was just a sop to public opinion. Any historians reading this? Oh ... right. Thanks, David. Yes, that's not implausible. One would assume that the library didn't just put the books back into circulation, that they treated them somehow, or quarantined them for some period. Maybe even just burned them. But as their otherwise stringent rules don't seem to require informing them that there was a disease outbreak in the house -- just to return the books -- who knows what they actually did?

Would fumigation work against polio, anyway? A virus isn't alive and so couldn't be killed by gassing it, which (as I understand it) is what fumigation basically is. TB, I could see -- that's caused by bacteria which could in theory be gassed effectively. (I'm not a doctor or a biologist, so of course I could be wrong.) Of course, all this may not have been clear in the 1940s when the sticker was printed. Or maybe it was just a sop to public opinion. Any historians reading this? Oh ... right.

]]> By: david tiley http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-9082 david tiley Sat, 25 Nov 2006 17:30:18 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/#comment-9082 It's not such a stupid idea - you could lie in bed, sneezing on books, passing them on... I seem to remember reading stickers in books that had been in libraries maintained by chemists that they promised the books were regularly fumigated. i know this was a big panic in the fifties with polio. It's not such a stupid idea - you could lie in bed, sneezing on books, passing them on...

I seem to remember reading stickers in books that had been in libraries maintained by chemists that they promised the books were regularly fumigated.

i know this was a big panic in the fifties with polio.

]]> By: Alex http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-7985 Alex Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:25:25 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/#comment-7985 I seem to recall that just seeing the rules used to make me snigger. I seem to recall that just seeing the rules used to make me snigger.

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-7979 Brett Holman Thu, 16 Nov 2006 15:51:22 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/#comment-7979 Alan: it was a humble library, not a philosophy department. I doubt it would have been anything so elevated! Alex: well, you gotta laugh don't you. Only outside the library though. Did you test the boundaries? Did they let you smirk? Snicker? Snigger? Chuckle? Giggle? I bet they drew the line at giggling. One <a href="http://www.union.unimelb.edu.au/rwl/" rel="nofollow">library</a> on campus has signs explicitly prohibiting study. "Please do not study in this library" or something like that. (It's the student union library, not an academic one.) Though I have seen people breaking this rule, to my knowledge they've never been forcibly ejected from the premises for doing so, which seems wrong somehow. Alan: it was a humble library, not a philosophy department. I doubt it would have been anything so elevated!

Alex: well, you gotta laugh don't you. Only outside the library though. Did you test the boundaries? Did they let you smirk? Snicker? Snigger? Chuckle? Giggle? I bet they drew the line at giggling.

One library on campus has signs explicitly prohibiting study. "Please do not study in this library" or something like that. (It's the student union library, not an academic one.) Though I have seen people breaking this rule, to my knowledge they've never been forcibly ejected from the premises for doing so, which seems wrong somehow.

]]> By: Alex http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/comment-page-1/#comment-7968 Alex Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:31:50 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/11/16/now-pay-attention/#comment-7968 "Rule Six. There is no rule six" I knew someone at Royal Holloway who managed to owe the library £72 in fines. I also remember that, as a lad in the 1980s, Bradford Metropolitan Council's libraries were governed by a fearsome code stapled to the peeling, defunded walls that actually forbade you to <em>laugh</em>. "Rule Six. There is no rule six"

I knew someone at Royal Holloway who managed to owe the library £72 in fines. I also remember that, as a lad in the 1980s, Bradford Metropolitan Council's libraries were governed by a fearsome code stapled to the peeling, defunded walls that actually forbade you to laugh.

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