Comments on: An alternative Battle of Britain — I http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/ Airpower and British society, 1908-1941 Sat, 30 Aug 2008 14:53:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Don Smith http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73812 Don Smith Tue, 06 May 2008 02:20:31 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73812 LOL ... thanks Brett ... I concur. And there's the wonder that is Google ... LOL … thanks Brett … I concur. And there’s the wonder that is Google …

]]> By: Jakob http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73797 Jakob Mon, 05 May 2008 16:52:15 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73797 Oh I see - a fair point! I gathered LBW dislikes Bungay's style, as well as making claims of novelty for ideas that have been part of the specialist discourse for a while - but I wouldn't want to put words in Lee's mouth. Oh I see - a fair point! I gathered LBW dislikes Bungay’s style, as well as making claims of novelty for ideas that have been part of the specialist discourse for a while - but I wouldn’t want to put words in Lee’s mouth.

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73777 Brett Holman Mon, 05 May 2008 10:09:38 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73777 Oh no, it wasn't meant as a criticism of Deighton, but rather students who post on blogs expecting others to do their work for them! Not sure what LBW has against Bungay's book either, he was very harsh about it on the Consimworld forums (I think) but I don't think he said why ... Oh no, it wasn’t meant as a criticism of Deighton, but rather students who post on blogs expecting others to do their work for them!

Not sure what LBW has against Bungay’s book either, he was very harsh about it on the Consimworld forums (I think) but I don’t think he said why …

]]> By: Jakob http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73776 Jakob Mon, 05 May 2008 10:00:53 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73776 That's maybe a little harsh Brett, even if it is 30+ years old... At the risk of enraging Lee Brimmicombe-Wood, I'd suggest "The Most Dangerous Enemy" by Stephen Bungay as being an excellent modern history. If looking for loss figures, I believe Francis K Mason's "Battle over Britain" is the standard work. That’s maybe a little harsh Brett, even if it is 30+ years old…

At the risk of enraging Lee Brimmicombe-Wood, I’d suggest “The Most Dangerous Enemy” by Stephen Bungay as being an excellent modern history.

If looking for loss figures, I believe Francis K Mason’s “Battle over Britain” is the standard work.

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73770 Brett Holman Mon, 05 May 2008 01:21:21 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73770 Don, I would have ended that comment after the word 'library' :) Don, I would have ended that comment after the word ‘library’ :)

]]> By: Don Smith http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73768 Don Smith Sun, 04 May 2008 23:13:51 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73768 Rachel - go to the library and borrow Len Deighton's "Fighter". See this thread at Key Publishing's Aviation Forum for a discussion regarding the (very high) veracity of that book. You will find eveything you want there and then some. http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=37243 Rachel - go to the library and borrow Len Deighton’s “Fighter”. See this thread at Key Publishing’s Aviation Forum for a discussion regarding the (very high) veracity of that book. You will find eveything you want there and then some.
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=37243

]]> By: Rachel http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73760 Rachel Sun, 04 May 2008 15:00:51 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-73760 I've got to complete a history essay on the battle of Britain, I can't seem to find why the battle ended and how many casualties there was in total, I'd be really grateful if someone can help me? I’ve got to complete a history essay on the battle of Britain, I can’t seem to find why the battle ended and how many casualties there was in total, I’d be really grateful if someone can help me?

]]> By: Airminded · An alternative Blitz http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-51646 Airminded · An alternative Blitz Wed, 13 Jun 2007 16:50:58 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-51646 [...] year I talked about J. M. Spaight’s The Sky’s the Limit (here, here and here), and how its account of the then-developing Battle of Britain was somewhat [...] [...] year I talked about J. M. Spaight’s The Sky’s the Limit (here, here and here), and how its account of the then-developing Battle of Britain was somewhat [...]

]]> By: Airminded · An alternative Battle of Britain — III http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-2242 Airminded · An alternative Battle of Britain — III Thu, 24 Aug 2006 15:19:11 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-2242 [...] So, I’ve looked at J. M. Spaight’s predictions in The Sky’s the Limit about how the British fighters would fare in the Battle of Britain, and how the German ones would too. All that remains is to examine his thoughts on the German bombers. [...] [...] So, I’ve looked at J. M. Spaight’s predictions in The Sky’s the Limit about how the British fighters would fare in the Battle of Britain, and how the German ones would too. All that remains is to examine his thoughts on the German bombers. [...]

]]> By: Brett Holman http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-1990 Brett Holman Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:55:57 +0000 http://airminded.org/2006/07/31/an-alternative-battle-of-britain-i/#comment-1990 Thanks, Kurt. No, I can't think of any American fighters like that. The P-38 would be the closest in concept to the Me 110, but it was indeed a good machine (it probably helped that it carried only a crew of 1). The RAF had some heavy fighters too -- the Blenheim I.F (a bomber adapted into a heavy fighter), the Beaufighter (another bomber adaptation), the Mosquito (ditto) and the Whirlwind (pure fighter from the start). The Luftwaffe persisted with them as well (eg Me 410). The main reason was to increase the range, and of course drop tanks turned out to be a better solution to this problem. Thanks, Kurt. No, I can’t think of any American fighters like that. The P-38 would be the closest in concept to the Me 110, but it was indeed a good machine (it probably helped that it carried only a crew of 1).

The RAF had some heavy fighters too — the Blenheim I.F (a bomber adapted into a heavy fighter), the Beaufighter (another bomber adaptation), the Mosquito (ditto) and the Whirlwind (pure fighter from the start). The Luftwaffe persisted with them as well (eg Me 410). The main reason was to increase the range, and of course drop tanks turned out to be a better solution to this problem.

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