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		<title>By: Brett Holman</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2006/02/11/japanese-arp-posters/comment-page-1/#comment-73027</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Ahmose. Another commenter pointed that out too, and in fact I eventually wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://airminded.org/2006/10/17/pick-a-date-any-date/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a post&lt;/a&gt; about the question of when the war started. I still came up with the &quot;traditional&quot; answer but at least I have a rationalisation for it now! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Ahmose. Another commenter pointed that out too, and in fact I eventually wrote <a href="http://airminded.org/2006/10/17/pick-a-date-any-date/" rel="nofollow">a post</a> about the question of when the war started. I still came up with the &#8220;traditional&#8221; answer but at least I have a rationalisation for it now! :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmose</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2006/02/11/japanese-arp-posters/comment-page-1/#comment-72966</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 23:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mention what you think is an error.. source says poster from WWII but date says 1938. In fact, WWII started in East Asia in 1937 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II#War_breaks_out ) but we are more familiar with the date of its European start in 1939.

Great blog! Keep it up!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mention what you think is an error.. source says poster from WWII but date says 1938. In fact, WWII started in East Asia in 1937 ( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II#War_breaks_out" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II#War_breaks_out</a> ) but we are more familiar with the date of its European start in 1939.</p>
<p>Great blog! Keep it up!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Holman</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2006/02/11/japanese-arp-posters/comment-page-1/#comment-72927</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been &lt;a href=&quot;http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/265-olympic-rings-of-fear-japans-air-raid-angst-1938/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;strangemapped&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been <a href="http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2008/04/13/265-olympic-rings-of-fear-japans-air-raid-angst-1938/" rel="nofollow">strangemapped</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: 265 - Olympic Rings of Fear: Japan&#8217;s Air Raid Angst (1938) &#171; Strange Maps</title>
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		<dc:creator>265 - Olympic Rings of Fear: Japan&#8217;s Air Raid Angst (1938) &#171; Strange Maps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 12:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] passing by like (air)ships in the night: good-bye and good luck! This post (a follow-up of a previous post about air raid posters) has this Japanese poster, and several others (including ones where the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] passing by like (air)ships in the night: good-bye and good luck! This post (a follow-up of a previous post about air raid posters) has this Japanese poster, and several others (including ones where the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Holman</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2006/02/11/japanese-arp-posters/comment-page-1/#comment-365</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 13:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t really say about the samurai connection, but I guess it&#039;s probably a natural enough reaction on the part of a power that has an established naval and/or military advantage (as Japan did locally) to resist the introduction of technologies which potentially could undermine that lead. One reason HMS &lt;em&gt;Dreadnought&lt;/em&gt; was so surprising ...

The pamphlet you quote is very interesting! My guess is that just how worried the Japanese were about bombers depends on which period we are talking about. The groups of 2-3 bombers suggests to me that they were thinking of something like the Doolittle raid, nuisance raids launched from carriers, and not the later massed B-29 raids. One thing that I got from Quester&#039;s book was the way that the fear of the bomber waxed and waned according to what other threats there were (so, eg, the French didn&#039;t become really concerned about bombing until after the Maginot line was completed, that is, when they felt safe from invasion). So in 1938, Japan perhaps felt safe enough from invasion by just about anyone, but bombers were another matter, while in 1942-4, there was a buffer zone against bombers, but American submarines and island hopping were a greater concern. And there&#039;s also a dynamic, I think, where fears tend to played up before a war, but played down during the war (to avoid panic). There may also have been some wishful &quot;victory disease&quot; thinking going on -- &lt;em&gt;of course&lt;/em&gt; the Americans will never get within range of Japan, so let&#039;s put the workers&#039; minds at ease so they can get on with producing for the war economy. 

But certainly, you have a point -- despite any fear of the bomber that may have existed in the 1930s, by 1944-5 the air defences of the Japanese home islands were run down to such an extent that LeMay could strip his B-29&#039;s of armour and guns, to maximise bombload. I&#039;ll be interested to see what you turn up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t really say about the samurai connection, but I guess it&#8217;s probably a natural enough reaction on the part of a power that has an established naval and/or military advantage (as Japan did locally) to resist the introduction of technologies which potentially could undermine that lead. One reason HMS <em>Dreadnought</em> was so surprising &#8230;</p>
<p>The pamphlet you quote is very interesting! My guess is that just how worried the Japanese were about bombers depends on which period we are talking about. The groups of 2-3 bombers suggests to me that they were thinking of something like the Doolittle raid, nuisance raids launched from carriers, and not the later massed B-29 raids. One thing that I got from Quester&#8217;s book was the way that the fear of the bomber waxed and waned according to what other threats there were (so, eg, the French didn&#8217;t become really concerned about bombing until after the Maginot line was completed, that is, when they felt safe from invasion). So in 1938, Japan perhaps felt safe enough from invasion by just about anyone, but bombers were another matter, while in 1942-4, there was a buffer zone against bombers, but American submarines and island hopping were a greater concern. And there&#8217;s also a dynamic, I think, where fears tend to played up before a war, but played down during the war (to avoid panic). There may also have been some wishful &#8220;victory disease&#8221; thinking going on &#8212; <em>of course</em> the Americans will never get within range of Japan, so let&#8217;s put the workers&#8217; minds at ease so they can get on with producing for the war economy. </p>
<p>But certainly, you have a point &#8212; despite any fear of the bomber that may have existed in the 1930s, by 1944-5 the air defences of the Japanese home islands were run down to such an extent that LeMay could strip his B-29&#8217;s of armour and guns, to maximise bombload. I&#8217;ll be interested to see what you turn up!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Hibbs</title>
		<link>http://airminded.org/2006/02/11/japanese-arp-posters/comment-page-1/#comment-363</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Hibbs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting set of posters; were Japan&#039;s attempts to outlaw/limit bombing a parallel to the Samurai&#039;s resistance to firearms?

As far as home-made gas masks go, the British Government had considered such measures as late as 1929, based on a design from 1917; see my scribblings at http://www.nbcd.org.uk/articles/article_001.asp.

In this respect, there is a similarity between Japanese ideas and the British &#039;tell the householder how to protect themselves&#039; policy of 1935-1940.

If I can briefly play devil&#039;s advocate, I have a copy of Civil Defence Pamhlet No.9 (1948) entitled &#039;Japanese Civil Defence&#039; issued by the UK Home Office.

This document says of Japanese civil defence:

&quot;...failure was due to the A.R.P. authorities underestimating the scale of attack likely to be launched against them, as a result of the optimistic appreciation by the Military, who gave as their opinion, &quot;the only raids that could be staged on the Japanese homeland would be of a spasmodic nature involving not more than two or three aircraft and that no bombs of greater weight than 500 lbs would be dropped.&quot; In fact the raids envisaged would be of the tip and run variety. A.R.P. plans were accordingly built upon this false appreciation.&quot; 

Was Japan really so scared of the bomber, or were the authors of this pamphlet basing their conclusions on Japanese propaganda designed to reduce the public&#039;s fear of air attack?

If the Japanese really thought that they were only at risk from small raids, then there is little similarity between Japanese and British fears. But if I&#039;m being honest, the arguments above are more convincing; the building materials used were vulnerable and the Allies were not ignorant of this. The German city of L&#252;beck was singled out for attack by the RAF on account of its wooden buildings.

Also, why were only two or three aircraft are expected to attack? 

My experience is that such studies were usually quite thorough, with interrogation and documentary evidence being used; however, the picture painted here doesn&#039;t match that being put forward above.

I&#039;m going to the archives tomorrow; there&#039;s a file devoted to this pamphlet, so I&#039;m going to have a look and see what the Home Office based their conclusions on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting set of posters; were Japan&#8217;s attempts to outlaw/limit bombing a parallel to the Samurai&#8217;s resistance to firearms?</p>
<p>As far as home-made gas masks go, the British Government had considered such measures as late as 1929, based on a design from 1917; see my scribblings at <a href="http://www.nbcd.org.uk/articles/article_001.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.nbcd.org.uk/articles/article_001.asp</a>.</p>
<p>In this respect, there is a similarity between Japanese ideas and the British &#8216;tell the householder how to protect themselves&#8217; policy of 1935-1940.</p>
<p>If I can briefly play devil&#8217;s advocate, I have a copy of Civil Defence Pamhlet No.9 (1948) entitled &#8216;Japanese Civil Defence&#8217; issued by the UK Home Office.</p>
<p>This document says of Japanese civil defence:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;failure was due to the A.R.P. authorities underestimating the scale of attack likely to be launched against them, as a result of the optimistic appreciation by the Military, who gave as their opinion, &#8220;the only raids that could be staged on the Japanese homeland would be of a spasmodic nature involving not more than two or three aircraft and that no bombs of greater weight than 500 lbs would be dropped.&#8221; In fact the raids envisaged would be of the tip and run variety. A.R.P. plans were accordingly built upon this false appreciation.&#8221; </p>
<p>Was Japan really so scared of the bomber, or were the authors of this pamphlet basing their conclusions on Japanese propaganda designed to reduce the public&#8217;s fear of air attack?</p>
<p>If the Japanese really thought that they were only at risk from small raids, then there is little similarity between Japanese and British fears. But if I&#8217;m being honest, the arguments above are more convincing; the building materials used were vulnerable and the Allies were not ignorant of this. The German city of L&uuml;beck was singled out for attack by the RAF on account of its wooden buildings.</p>
<p>Also, why were only two or three aircraft are expected to attack? </p>
<p>My experience is that such studies were usually quite thorough, with interrogation and documentary evidence being used; however, the picture painted here doesn&#8217;t match that being put forward above.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to the archives tomorrow; there&#8217;s a file devoted to this pamphlet, so I&#8217;m going to have a look and see what the Home Office based their conclusions on.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Dresner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Dresner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The firebreaks come well after 1938, to be fair: the use of incendiary bombs by the US and Allies was even more devastating to the wood-paper-plaster/mud construction common to Japanese urban areas than it was in Europe. Fire control had long been a serious issue in Japanese cities, but the bombing was particularly effective because of the construction methods. There&#039;s some mention of fire-control issues in Hersey&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Hiroshima&lt;/i&gt;, and a fair bit in the Cook&amp;Cook oral histories &lt;i&gt;Japan At War&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The firebreaks come well after 1938, to be fair: the use of incendiary bombs by the US and Allies was even more devastating to the wood-paper-plaster/mud construction common to Japanese urban areas than it was in Europe. Fire control had long been a serious issue in Japanese cities, but the bombing was particularly effective because of the construction methods. There&#8217;s some mention of fire-control issues in Hersey&#8217;s <i>Hiroshima</i>, and a fair bit in the Cook&amp;Cook oral histories <i>Japan At War</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: (Nearly) a century of circles &#124; Airminded</title>
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		<dc:creator>(Nearly) a century of circles &#124; Airminded</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2006 16:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In my previous post I talked about some Japanese ARP posters from 1938. One in particular (above; click for larger version) is very revealing: it shows exactly whose bombers the Japanese were worried about, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brett Holman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett Holman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hoped you might chime in, Jonathan! Re the dates thing, I did think of that, but I doubted that Boing Boing would be so historically aware (especially after calling them &quot;duck and cover&quot; posters :) Still, as somebody very focused on Europe, it&#039;s always hard for me to think of any other date besides September 1939 for the start of WWII, so it is useful to be reminded of other perspectives ...

Thanks for the translation, it makes sense. Activated charcoal is commonly used in gas masks for adsorption of the toxic gases, the chlorotropin (or whatever it is -- I couldn&#039;t find this in Google) might be used to treat the charcoal with, to help it bind to a specific gas more readily.

And knocking down parts of your own cities to make firebreaks, wow -- that in itself demonstrates a pretty strong fear of the bomber!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hoped you might chime in, Jonathan! Re the dates thing, I did think of that, but I doubted that Boing Boing would be so historically aware (especially after calling them &#8220;duck and cover&#8221; posters :) Still, as somebody very focused on Europe, it&#8217;s always hard for me to think of any other date besides September 1939 for the start of WWII, so it is useful to be reminded of other perspectives &#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the translation, it makes sense. Activated charcoal is commonly used in gas masks for adsorption of the toxic gases, the chlorotropin (or whatever it is &#8212; I couldn&#8217;t find this in Google) might be used to treat the charcoal with, to help it bind to a specific gas more readily.</p>
<p>And knocking down parts of your own cities to make firebreaks, wow &#8212; that in itself demonstrates a pretty strong fear of the bomber!</p>
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		<title>By: Frog in a Well - The Japan History Group Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frog in a Well - The Japan History Group Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 12:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brett at Airminded notes the Japanese National Archives war poster collection including detailed poison gas attack instructions and anti-fire civil defense. The level of detail in these instructional posters is quite intense, and would be really useful in classroom situations. Brett has a few questions about them, that I&#8217;ve tried to answer, but go on over and lend a hand, will you? [...]</description>
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